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 Posted - 11/08/2006 : 09:37:33
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Ok Am I missing something?I placed some clubs for sale on this Forum under club corner-It reads Club Corner
This forum will be used to sell and buy equipment. GGA sells NG clubs, demo clubs, as well as clubs from other manufacturers. They also have many specials and folks can buy clubs at great prices.
Thanks no harm intended..
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Hack the knife
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 09:55:19
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No, you arent missing anything.
There have been 138 views of your post.
People have looked ... but it seems they don't want to buy what you're selling |
On the path - not always on the fairway |
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 10:00:50
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Originally posted by Hack the knife
No, you arent missing anything.
There have been 138 views of your post.
People have looked ... but it seems they don't want to buy what you're selling
There are tweleve views, check your glasses, just a joke... |
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 10:03:39
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Originally posted by Pedro
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Originally posted by Hack the knife
No, you arent missing anything.
There have been 138 views of your post.
People have looked ... but it seems they don't want to buy what you're selling
There are dozen views, check your glasses, just a joke...
I just saw somone posted under my Name, Not me,
I responded via e-mail. Pedro |
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Mojo23
Administrator
Panama
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 10:24:04
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Pedro -
I am no longer moderating on this site, but I can give you my point of view on what most likely happened. This forum is for GGA members to participate about discussions about the Moe Norman Swing and GGA related activities. There is also a category where users are are allowed to sell or trade clubs. Given that you have less than 10 posts under your username and all of them seem to be related to the sales of clubs, I would categorize your posts more under spam. If you were active in other discussions and occassionaly sold clubs that would be a different story, but that does not appear to the be the case. If you are allowed to sell your clubs here then why not allow any other person to come in here and advertise clubs? You have to remember that GGA pays for the hits on this forum and someone is using this forum only for personal financial gain than I would think that would be considered a problem. I would suggest you discuss this with Scott if this has been misunderstood. |
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MoPars
USA
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 12:45:53
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Here, here Mojo. I agree and think discussion of single length irons or the 1 Iron approach is not germane to this site either. GGA does not teach nor does it promote a 1 Iron golf swing. Tim has said several times that students should not mix methods. Why is so much discussion allowed about somthing that is opposed to what Tim and Todd teach? It could easily be confusing to people trying to gather information about what is taught by GGA.
IMHO,
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Leo
Canada
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 13:41:10
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Hoping for success without hard work is like trying to harvest without planting. |
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Mojo23
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Panama
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 14:17:55
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Originally posted by Mojo23
I think discussions of the 1-iron system is just as valid as having discussions about any other club manufacturers. I know golfers love talking about equipment and a lot of people like to share ideas of what works and what doesn't work for them to help their fellow golfers. It does appear that there are a handful of people in the forum that use this system and seem happy with with it so there are naturally more threads about it then other club manufacturers. I still think this is within the spirit of the forum.
I think where we would have problems is if there are certain members whose purpose on the forum is only to promote or sell the 1-iron system. Normal discussions about clubs and sharing ideas is always good, but if your only intent is to sell than their is a high likely hood that your posts will end up being deleted or moderated in some way, which looks like what happened here.
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Scott_R
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USA
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 17:06:52
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Ok, everyone take a deep breath here and calm down a second.
This part of the forum is for it's members to buy/sell clubs as they wish, HOWEVER, it is NOT a place for someone to come in and ONLY sell clubs, especially if that person does not subscribe to the teachings of the Academy, but appears to only be here to profit from our members.
Now, in regards to the 1 iron clubs, there has been much discussion about them on this forum, and Todd has had conversations with David Lake and does have a set of 1 iron clubs at the teaching center and has hit them. While we do not believe they give you an "advantage" so to speak, many of our forum members have tried them and like them.
We are more than happy to custom fit clubs from manufacturers such as Callaway, Cobra, Titleist, Adams and more for our students, and our #1 belief is that clubs should fit you. Like you don't wear shoes that are 2 sizes too small, you shouldn't have clubs that don't fit.
Thanks,
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Scott R.
GGA Director of Customer Relations
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TGGS
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 11/08/2006 : 17:42:04
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My opinion on 1 iron clubs (this is my opinion).
1. I do not see the advantage of the one iron clubs.
2. From trying the clubs in the past, they feel heavy to me, I hit the long irons shorter than my different length irons...
3. I loose feel in the short irons as they seem too long to me...
90% of my fitting are recommended graphite. As graphite is MUCH easier to hit for most, much more forgiving, will swing faster, etc..
1 iron clubs only come in steel - for most, not a good material for their clubs.
Again - this is my opinion -
Tim
GGA
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Toddg
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USA
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Posted - 11/10/2006 : 22:26:37
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Todds Opinion:
For those who I have spoken with, they like the 1 iron clubs. After all, they are golf clubs and if they fit, they can be swung into a Single plane. There is nothing wrong with that. Clubs are tools to perform the task of hitting a golf ball at a target. They do that. Whether they do that better than a traditional "multi-length" set is only a matter of distance. In other words, do the club perform and help you hit the ball the correct distances to play well.
I actually "in Theory" really like the 1 iron club concept. And it works...to some extent. To what extent, I do not really know...Yet. It is probably not fair to even compare the 1 iron clubs to the sets I currently use...and Until I practice further with the 1 iron concept and clubs, I can not give them a Fair review.
It is a fact that longer clubs go further...it is simply Physics. This is why drivers are longer than 5 irons. Even David Lakes woods are longer than his irons.
Remember, there is the 7 Principles that we teach. Swing, Short Game, Putting are three of the principles. When you consider the golf swing, Could there be a possible division of importance? For example a POWER Principle 1 and a Distance Control Principle 1? In other words, if you decide to break down Principle 1, you would say POWER DRIVER and CONTROL Irons. This would make sense. Something to think about.
If David Lakes clubs do not go as far as my "traditional" irons, then it doesn't really matter unless I want to hit the ball further with my irons. It might just be about distance control.
The only problem I can possibly see with this theory is this:
I carry the following clubs in my bag:
Driver
3wood (15)
Hybrid (18)
3 iron to PW
Gap (53)
Lob (58)
Putter
My Hybrid goes approximately 225. My 3 iron goes approximately 210. (A 15 yard gap).
If David Lakes clubs go shorter because they are shorter lever, It will reduce my 3 iron length to 200 leaving a huge gap in my bag of 25 yards. This is a bit of a problem.
Todd
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Jimblob
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Posted - 11/10/2006 : 23:02:45
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Todd:
I think after owning and playing 1Irons that possibly some of the factors determining comfort with these clubs are: 1. Being sold on the concept, and in conjunction with that 2. using the irons as a set for several months. It definitely takes getting used to swinging the clubs on the opposite ends of the set since that's where the length difference is most noticable. From my personal experience I didn't lose any noticable distance with the low lofted irons. In fact I actually gained a bit. I think that's because of the confidence gained from knowing where the swing plane is on every iron. It helps me not to over swing on the 3 & 4 irons knowing that I should be hitting them long comparatively. Meaning the mental thought that "I've got to hit this 3 iron 200 yards" and that causing one to overswing. I've hit my longest and most accurate iron shots with these clubs. Golf is so incredibly mental when it comes to good shots. I think perhaps that's the best benefit of these particular clubs. I also hit his steel driver (43in. steel shaft and 240ccs on the clubhead) incredibly more accurately than any previous driver, and I've matched some of my longest distances although my distance probably varies a good 50 yards occasionally. Anyway, that's my take. I don't think it's necessarily an advantage per se over standard length clubs, but if you're sold on the concept, they can be very beneficial visa vis solid, consistent ball striking. And a great marriage to GGA golf instruction. I love my clubs and they have definitely helped to improve my game.
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Toddg
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 11/12/2006 : 16:01:27
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Thanks for the Post Jim.
I am still reviewing data that I am accumulating with the clubs. I want to be fair to the concepts and theory. I can tell you that I swing my driver about 110 to 112 mph. I just cant see myself swinging that fast with a 43inch steel shaft. Length does make a difference in how far you hit the ball...that is why your driver is 43 inches and your irons are about 37....
Club head weight is an issue, length is an issue, length is an issue, Lie angle is an issue....There are many factors. But in general, I like the theory.
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Cant sell clubs on this site?
