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 Posted - 07/10/2005 : 08:47:56
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Anyone have some of these kicking around to try. Pat
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Just Woods and Wedges
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Posted - 07/10/2005 : 16:23:50
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They often show up on eBay; if you're a lefty, www.leftiesonly.com has them for $90 each; the www.wedgewood.com website currently has an offer for $40 for a 38* Original Series Wedgewood to try out (that's the kind I have).
A 38* is like an 8 iron, so multiple uses: I chip with it from about 85 yards from a parallel shaft backswing station with a dead hands downswing....or 115 yards from a 9 o'clock backswing position with dead hands downswing....or 135 yards from a 9 o'clock backswing with some power pulling it down through the ball. The dead hands idea is very repeatable for me because the speed of the clubhead doesn't vary as much from swing to swing as it does when I apply power to the swing. Doesn't go as far, of course, without powering the downswing, but who cares...take out the 30* if you need more (repeatable) distance. Fewer moving parts to go wrong can be a good thing.
Try the 38* deal from the wedgewood site unless you can find one cheaper on eBay - it's a cost effective way to see if you like them. Visually they are certainly different than a conventional club, but they swing through the ball like short shafted 7 woods.
The 7, 8, 9 (34*, 38*, 44*) have kind of a F2 Wedge look, the leading edge is forward of the hosel, so very few fat shots and few, if any, shanks.
I put NG All-weather grips on mine (arthritis).
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Anyone have some of these kicking around to try. Pat
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Posted - 07/10/2005 : 17:02:20
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| Yah I ordered one of those 38's, have to have it sent through my big blister who lives in El Segundo, Cali. No wedgewood dealers up here in Canada, so maybe I'll be a rangerat with the 38 for the rest of this year and if it works have a set sent to Siesta Key next April/May when we're at the Beach Place. You have any of the Silver or Gold series?? Pat |
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Just Woods and Wedges
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Posted - 07/10/2005 : 22:46:38
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When I bought mine only the Original Series was available. I have been so happy with them that I haven't looked at the newer models.
I originally bought the 22*, 30*, 38* and 44*. I later added the 26* and 34* (5,7 irons).
To tell you the truth, I could probably get along without those two by gripping down on the 22* or 30* if I wanted to carry a lighter bag.
I suggest that you find a couple of comfortable backswing stations (7:30 and 9:00) and chip or swing easily through from there. Add a forceful 9 o'clock swing and then chart your distances from each position. Make those your automatic, "go to" distances with the 38* WW. My 38* numbers are 85-115-135. You'll find yourself laying up to those distances on the course because you're so comfortable hitting the WW. I have numbers for each Wedgewood like that and update them at the range a couple of times each month. I find that I get maybe 5 yards longer with each club by the end of the season with each of the intermediate swings.
If you had 4 WW's and 4 wedges, that would give you 24 repeatable distances to call on. I just keep a card with the yardages in my pocket on the course to refer to although I've memorized most at this point.
I think you'll like the 38*; be sure to give the visual adjustment to the clubhead appearance a fair chance. Ball position is 1 ball in front of center of stance and position hands forward, even with ball. That setup works well with the WW's for me.
Good luck; let me know how it works for you.
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Yah I ordered one of those 38's, have to have it sent through my big blister who lives in El Segundo, Cali. No wedgewood dealers up here in Canada, so maybe I'll be a rangerat with the 38 for the rest of this year and if it works have a set sent to Siesta Key next April/May when we're at the Beach Place. You have any of the Silver or Gold series?? Pat
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Posted - 07/11/2005 : 06:49:44
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| JWW is that ball position with all the clubs or just the 38. In other words do you position the ball, in a perfect lie, where you would position the ball with the club the Wedgewood is replacing? As I was on the 1irons for so long everything was in the middle unless the lie was uphill, downhill etc, then the regular rules for such shots came into play, so yeah I'll have to work on this. I'll probly order the whole regular set once the ebay items sell on Wednesday. Best Regards, Pat |
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Just Woods and Wedges
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Posted - 07/11/2005 : 08:21:36
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Pat,
It depends upon the day, but almost always I have the ball one ball in front of center of stance for all the WW's. Occasionally I'll have a day when I'm sweeping more or coming down more acutely and I'll adjust for that. Almost always I'm a ball in front of center stance but sometimes I'll move the ball back to center. Even with the 22* (4 iron). I hardly ever have the ball really forward.
But.....find your comfort zone. Each person's swing is inextricably tied to his/her physique and conditioning. Don't think that if you don't follow one person's recipe exactly that the soup is spoiled. You are the only one who can determine your comfort level. Just come straight through the ball easily at first then increase your backswing arc until you're comfortable.
I personally just set up the same and swing the same with each WW and let the loft determine distance. I will say that I do keep the ball back and the followthrough lower on knockdown shots in wind.
Off to the course...playing Fairfax National today with my son.
Hit 'em straight. May the course be with you.
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Originally posted by kempton
JWW is that ball position with all the clubs or just the 38. In other words do you position the ball, in a perfect lie, where you would position the ball with the club the Wedgewood is replacing? As I was on the 1irons for so long everything was in the middle unless the lie was uphill, downhill etc, then the regular rules for such shots came into play, so yeah I'll have to work on this. I'll probly order the whole regular set once the ebay items sell on Wednesday. Best Regards, Pat
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Posted - 07/11/2005 : 09:29:36
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| Thanx and May the Course Be With You As Well, Pat |
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 Posted - 07/11/2005 : 15:23:19
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| I have 2 original Wedgewoods, a LONG 22 degree, and a MID 30 degree. Both good condition, probably 8 out of 10, both graphite shafts. I have a headcover for the MID club only. I would sell them both for $80 plus shipping. They both have Natural Golf style non-tapered grips. If you're interested I'll take them to the UPS store to see how much it would cost to ship to Canada. Send me an email to elaineandbill@bellsouth.net to give me your address and I'll get back to you with a total. If it's cheaper and/or convenient to send them to your sister we could do that instead. If so, give me her address......thanks, Natural Bill |
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Posted - 07/11/2005 : 18:05:56
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| E-mail sent Bill, tks, are the grips Longshot Torpedos? Pat |
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| Well looks like all is well in Kemptonland, was able to get the 22 and 30 from Natural Bill, and had to purhase the 19d gold, 38d original on special and a 44d original. So far all cheaper than what I'm getting for my 1irons and two of my pairs of shoes, I have three more anyway. Got the big stick back from the boy and tried it at the range, 420cc Snake Eyes ViperTi on a firm ProForce xl, midsize lamkin with the bottom part built up a bit, was just crushing it. So looks like I'll be playing with it, 5 Wedgewoods, SE 600wb 52 and 56 d wedges and my SE Strike Line 1 putter, 9 clubs should end the confusion and pain from digging furrows with the old ones. The elbow pain does not come in when I tee up a driver and single plane it nor with fw woods so I think the WW's are going to help alot. tks all Pat. |
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Just Woods and Wedges
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Posted - 07/12/2005 : 16:51:50
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Sounds like you're all set. I guess that 19* WW is like a Strong 5 Wood. Haven't looked at it, I carry a 21* Strong 6 Wood/Weak 5 Wood myself. The 22,30,38,44 is your all around basic WW set. I will use my 26* for around 165-170 yards at a 75-80% swing, but rarely use the 34* (7 iron). Grip down an inch or so on the 22* and you've got a 26* just with a little lower 4 iron ball flight. Same thing for the 30*.
Add a 60 or 64* wedge in there sometime and you're good to go.
There's something to be said for carrying 9 or 10 clubs. I could take out my 2 Wood, 5 iron, 7 iron and 60* and not miss them terribly....they are pretty much just fine tuning clubs in my bag that I could work around. Hmmmmmm......unless I'm in a hardpacked bunker or on greenside hardpan dirt?!? Let me think about that a minute........maybe I'll keep the 60* Alien wedge. OK then, 11 clubs. Actually, maybe I'll try that next time out.
Good luck. Let me know how you're doing with the WW's.
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Well looks like all is well in Kemptonland, was able to get the 22 and 30 from Natural Bill, and had to purhase the 19d gold, 38d original on special and a 44d original. So far all cheaper than what I'm getting for my 1irons and two of my pairs of shoes, I have three more anyway. Got the big stick back from the boy and tried it at the range, 420cc Snake Eyes ViperTi on a firm ProForce xl, midsize lamkin with the bottom part built up a bit, was just crushing it. So looks like I'll be playing with it, 5 Wedgewoods, SE 600wb 52 and 56 d wedges and my SE Strike Line 1 putter, 9 clubs should end the confusion and pain from digging furrows with the old ones. The elbow pain does not come in when I tee up a driver and single plane it nor with fw woods so I think the WW's are going to help alot. tks all Pat.
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Posted - 07/21/2005 : 19:01:47
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Just got the 19d gold, 38d and 44d original Wedgewoods in late this aft. Went to the range after supper and holy crap are these clubs nice, even with the little grips, though they are hard on the right index being small and they feel like they are ribbed. Ordered GP softies or whispers mid-size forget which for these three and the 22 and 30 I bought off Natural Bill, if my MO ever gets to him. Wow no elbow pain with the graphite and these clubs soar and drop beautifully.  |
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Just Woods and Wedges
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Posted - 07/22/2005 : 20:18:55
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Aren't they nice!!!
I get high arching ballflight usually (at my level of play, I have to qualify the statement with "usually"). And the ball usually lands very softly - almost stays next to its pitchmark on a green - when I use my level shaft backswing station. I'll get 5-10 yards run with the same WW if hit from the 9 0'clock backswing station, but nearly all carry. Very very very predictable. Just go to the range and beat the cr*p out of the 100-125-150 yard markers, 10 balls each. In no time you'll be landing the ball within 10 feet.
Like I said, I use a firm chip backswing station; a shaft-level-to-the-ground backswing; and a hands at 9 o'clock backswing and don't power the club through the ball except for the 'chip.' The other two backswings, I resist temptation, pause at the peak of the backswing (if a level shaft has a peak) and let my arms go 'dead' and let the clubhead fall through the ball and on to a high finish. Much less tiresome on the arms and back. Very repeatable. You lose distance but just use the next highest WW.
This "system" has been so successful for me that I am contemplating adding an additional backswing station with my hands cocked and stopping at 7:30 on the clockface. I recommend this for all WW's and wedges in your bag. This additonal backswing stopping point will then give me 4 repeatable distances with each wedgewood (6) and each wedge (4) so 40 (!!!)reliable distances based entirely on loft of the club and dead arms gravity downswing. My handicap has gone down about 4 strokes this summer doing it this way although I have only played occasionally.
Make a chart of your WW distances (carry-roll) from the backswing stations I suggested above (chip-shaft level-hands at 7:30-hands at 9 o'clock)and take the card to the course with you. Hit 10-20 balls with each WW and, for now, discard your obvious foul ups until you get the feel of these clubs. It'll be like having a caddy in your pocket when you need to pick a club for a given intermediate distance.
My distances in yards (except for the 7:30 hand position that I'm working on) are as follows: [chip with hands outside trail foot--parallel shaft on backswing--cocked hands at 7:30 <working on this one>--hands at 9:00--hands at 9:00 with powered, not dead arms, downswing (tee shots)]
22*WW 98-110-x-175-185
26*WW 94-105-x-160-170
30*WW 90-89-x-144-150
34*WW 84-88-x-125-145
38*WW 80-82-x-115-135
44*WW 45-60-x-100-110
50* 25-53-x-74-90
55* 16-24-x-50-85
60* 14-29-x-37-65
64* 12-18-x-32-45
As you can see, some of the 'chip' distances are inexplicably similar to the 'parallel-shaft-backswing' distances and I don't use that chipping backswing stop much, but I keep track of them anyway because sometimes you are in a situation that limits the arc of your backswing so it's nice to know the distance I can expect with an abbreviated swing under a tree or near a fence. Again, these distances are all with a dead arms swing from each backswing stopping position. You can see that some distances are duplicated pretty much and then the ballflight trajectory differences come into play more re: stopping the ball on an approach shot.
I need more 40's distances and a 65 yd 'dead arms' club. Maybe working on the 7:30 backswing position will provide those. It's an interesting experiment anyway and is all about scoring from inside 150 yards. Like I say....took 4 strokes off since end of May playing just a couple times each month.
Keep me abreast of your progress with the WW's. I love mine, feel awkward with a conventional iron in my hands now, and I have never doubted my decision to switch to hybrid irons one bit.
I put Natural Golf All-Weather grips on mine. You're right, the grips they come with are too small.
Sorry for the long-winded post. Hit 'em straight,
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Originally posted by kempton
Just got the 19d gold, 38d and 44d original Wedgewoods in late this aft. Went to the range after supper and holy crap are these clubs nice, even with the little grips, though they are hard on the right index being small and they feel like they are ribbed. Ordered GP softies or whispers mid-size forget which for these three and the 22 and 30 I bought off Natural Bill, if my MO ever gets to him. Wow no elbow pain with the graphite and these clubs soar and drop beautifully.
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Edited by - Just Woods and Wedges on 07/24/2005 22:48:39 |
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Posted - 07/24/2005 : 22:58:21
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kempton (Pat),
Check your private messages inbox at the bottom of the "All Forums" page.
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Posted - 07/27/2005 : 14:53:23
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| JWW, there is nothing in my private messages, I tried to email you direct. Pat |
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Just Woods and Wedges
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Posted - 07/27/2005 : 16:36:25
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Will send you a regular email.
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JWW, there is nothing in my private messages, I tried to email you direct. Pat
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