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 Tim, who is your mentor?
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Leo


Canada
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Posted - 03/18/2008 :  10:40:40  Show Profile Send Leo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Todd's game is patterned after Moe. We never talk about Moe's wedge play or putting. Tim, who do you consider your teacher for your short game?

Hoping for success without hard work is like trying to harvest without planting.

TGGS
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USA
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Posted - 03/18/2008 :  10:57:32  Show Profile Send TGGS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't say I have one teacher. I have studied the short game for years, have played with and followed many of the best players in the world. I have patterned my teachings off what I consider the best and most effective methods in the short game - and to be honest, what makes sense to me and what I feel my students can perform.

For example, I love Dave Pelz's research and stats he did with with the short game - I have taken those and extrapolated out to all handicaps and all levels - for everyone. But, his wedge "clock" scoring is extremely difficult and requires a "non-hinging" non-leverage type grip. Too difficult for most and something I don't recommend practicing - even his price pupil - Tom Kite says he doesn't use the "3rd Grip" method.

I think Tiger's putting is 2nd to none and have followed much of his practice routines and techniques/drills he has used for years. Whether I was watching him and playing with him in the US Amateurs (watched him use the string drills, T on the ball, etc..) or now watching his "improved" putting stroke - he is a great model to follow in putting.

I have a friend named Tracey Phillips (PGA from Tulsa, OK) who Harvey Penick considered to have one of the best short games ever - Harvey wrote about him in his "Little Green Book". I have played 100s of rounds of golf with Tracey and have talked to him 1,000s of times about the short game - I use some of "his" techniques when it comes to chipping...

Nick Westlock (aka "Nick the Wedge") was probably the best wedge player ever - like Moe, many never heard of him - I like to use his mid to long wedge techniques - especially in the wedge charting area.

Anyway - these are a few - try to use the best of the best and determine what makes sense to myself and my students. That is what I focus on.

Tim Graves, PGA
timg@swinglikemoe.com
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nwnatural



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Posted - 03/18/2008 :  11:17:27  Show Profile Send nwnatural a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great question and answer. Thanks for the insight.

Hal
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