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Mojo23
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Panama
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Posted - 09/23/2005 :  09:25:39  Show Profile Send Mojo23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Current Participants -

- California Chapter
- Conneticut Chapter
- Washington Chapter

Note - Above chapters have members that will participate in both single and multiple man events.

Additional Participants -
- TenfingerTom
- NWnatural
- Golfnmusic

Note: Single man events
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Mojo23
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Panama
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Posted - 09/23/2005 :  09:26:09  Show Profile Send Mojo23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Folks, I have deleted the other Fall Moe Classic as I want to minimize confusion. thanks
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Mojo23
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Panama
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Posted - 09/23/2005 :  09:49:25  Show Profile Send Mojo23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Golf Tournament Information - PLEASE READ CAREFULLY -

Tasks to complete

1. Sign up before 10/15 for event by emailing me at pr_jorgeb@yahoo.com. Here is what I need on your email.

a. Names (and user names if available) for the folks participating
b. Specify the events each player is participating in (info on events below)
c. Handicaps of the players in your team
d. Name of course you have selected along with slope and rating (see course requirements below)
e. If you are in a Chapter, you should coordinate through your Chapter and only 1 person from the Chatper should email me. I would suggest Doc9 from CT and AverageGolfer for Washington.

Additional Detail -

Events you can sign up for -

- Single Man events (handicap based) - rules to follow

- Multiple Man events (Best ball - handicap based) - rules to follow (we will accept scores on best ball for teams from 2 through 4 players)

Course Requirements

Rating 69.50 – 71

Slope – 116 to 125

Here is an example of the kind of email I expect to see -

To: Pr_jorgeb@yahoo.com
Subject: Fall Moe Classic

Best Ball Event -
Mike (SJMike) - Handicap 15
Brian (ghosteye) - Handicap 7
Will (Digit) - Handicap 10

Course - San Jose Muni, 70 Rating, 69.75, slope 121

Single Man Events -
Bill - (Thor) - Handicap 5
Joe C - (Sris) - Handicap 14
Hector - (Marathon) - Handicap 8

Course - Wild Hawk GC, Rating 71.2, Slope 124

Tournament Event Dates -

Official dates for the tournament are on the weekend of 10/22 and 10/29. For those of you that are not available on these dates, you may submit your scores to me at my email address prior to these dates. I will publish the scores after the tournament is complete
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Geo



USA
282 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  13:44:21  Show Profile Send Geo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have never had a handicapp established. What will the process be for self and others in similar situations?

geo
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Mojo23
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Panama
1860 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  16:09:02  Show Profile Send Mojo23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Geo - Anyone can participate on the tournaent even if you don't have a handicap. I will post the information under tournament rules when I have the document created. tks
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Mojo23
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Panama
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Posted - 09/29/2005 :  07:42:50  Show Profile Send Mojo23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Folks, a reminder that if you want to participate you must email me the specifics at pr_jorgeb@yahoo.com
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doc9



USA
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Posted - 10/06/2005 :  13:21:47  Show Profile Send doc9 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jorge, we are getting together on the 15th of oct. I'm not sure who will show up but am I able to just ask them then what they want to participate in and then pair them up accordingly or do you need to know before we go? I'm not exactly sure what they or myself for that matter will be participating in yet. Obviously I would like to enter the part I think I would have the best chance of winning in. Is it possible to enter two separate parts of the tourney with one score? I wasn't involved last time so I'm not sure how it works or what to do. I think I will have a better idea once I know who is going to show up. I know me and Bob Perry wanted to team up in an event but not sure what that would be. a little confused out here, Dan
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Mojo23
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Panama
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Posted - 10/06/2005 :  19:54:04  Show Profile Send Mojo23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Doc 9 - No problem, should be failry simple. Yes, basically see who shows up and then you can pair them up. The easiest thing to do is to have everyone play tournament rules so that they can participate in both the single man event and the best ball events.

Example -

4 guys show up, so you decide to have them do the 4 man best ball. Since each person is playing their own ball the whole way anyway they can then use their final score towards the individual event. The only thing you need to be careful on for the best ball events is to figure out which hole folks will get strokes on. I will post the rules tonight so check it out later if you can.
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nwnatural



USA
479 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2005 :  19:55:04  Show Profile Send nwnatural a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jorge, we in Washington are planning on playing on the 11th. Will you have the rules availabe by then?

Hal

GGA Alumni
2008 3 day school
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AverageGolfer

377 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2005 :  20:47:35  Show Profile Send AverageGolfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mojo23

The only thing you need to be careful on for the best ball events is to figure out which hole folks will get strokes on. I will post the rules tonight so check it out later if you can.



Jorge:

Last time I played in a handicapped best ball, the team handicap was figured out by the average of the individual handicaps, then that handicap was simply deducted from the final team score, for the net team score. It sounds like you are merging a stroke play with a match play, but I could be wrong.

Marty
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Mojo23
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Panama
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Posted - 10/07/2005 :  11:08:15  Show Profile Send Mojo23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Average golfer - Interesting, the Best ball events I have played that are handicapped, you figure out which hole you get strokes on and then take the lowest number for that hole. An example -

John Doe scores a 4 but gets a stroke on that hole based on his handicap (his adj score is a 3)
Jane Doe scores a 5 but gets no stroke based on her handicap.

The score this group would use on the hole is a 3.

Personally, I think I like your suggestion better as it makes the process more simple. Let's go a head and go with that then.
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AverageGolfer

377 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2005 :  11:11:17  Show Profile Send AverageGolfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds good MoJo.
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Mojo23
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Panama
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Posted - 10/07/2005 :  11:41:57  Show Profile Send Mojo23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Average golfer - Check your email. I need your assistance in creating the instructions for the handicapping.
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Mojo23
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Panama
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Posted - 10/07/2005 :  12:00:50  Show Profile Send Mojo23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
TOURNAMENT RULES -

Standard tournament rules apply (No gimmies, mulligans, etc.) More rules below.

Maximum Score
The maximum score per hole is double par plus one. For example, if you are on a par 4, please pickup after your 9th stroke. (7 will be your maximum score on par 3s, 9 on par 4s, and 11 on par 5s)

Teeing Ground
Ball is touched and moved from the tee: 1 stroke penalty if player has intention to hit
Teeing from the wrong place: 2 stroke penalty

Out of Bounds
Go to point of OB, drop within 2 club lengths; 2 stroke penalty. If there is doubt about point of OB, captain rules it. OB includes white stakes, fence and area defined by the local course.

Lost Ball
You will have one-minute time limit to look for lost ball. If you cannot find your ball, drop the ball at the lost location as accurate as possible, 1 stroke penalty. If there is doubt about the lost location, captain rules it.

In the Hazard
Water hazard (Yellow stakes)
Drop ball within 2 club lengths from point of entry, 1 stroke penalty

Lateral Water Hazard (Red Stakes)
1 stroke penalty, the following are the different ways to play the next shot:
a. Re-hit from original location
b. Drop 2 club length from the closest red stake from point-of-entry - no closer to the hole
c. Anywhere along the flight path of the ball - no closer to the hole
No penalty if hit from the hazard where the ball lies, but club cannot touch the ground prior to the shot

Bunker
Any object that might injure you or damage your club can be removed without penalty. The club cannot touch the sand prior to the shot, 2 stroke penalty

Free Drops
Drop the ball within one club length from the nearest point of relief but not nearer to the hole, NO penalty. Examples of free drop: staked tree, obstruction, cart path, casual water, outside agency, ground under repair, flowerbed (with blue stakes). Ground under repair includes any marked area, obvious repairing area, or poor maintained fairway or rough (captain can help to rule it)

Unplayable Ball
Drop ball within 2 club lengths from the nearest point of relief but not nearer to the hole, 1 stroke penalty

Player can declare his ball unplayable anytime, anywhere even in the bunker. Except the unplayable ball in the bunker must be dropped in the bunker. Any unsafe shot must be determined as unplayable ball. Unplayable ball can be lifted cleaned and placed.

Putting Green
Accidentally hitting the ball: Place the ball back to original location, 1 stroke penalty
Hitting other balls: 2 stroke penalty
Hitting artificial objects (flag, club, etc): 2 stroke penalty
Everyone must hole out!

Miscellaneous
Hitting the wrong ball: 2 stroke penalty

Equipment
You can only have a maximum of 14 clubs in your bag while playing in the tournament.
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AverageGolfer

377 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2005 :  14:43:04  Show Profile Send AverageGolfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Rules for team competition:

This is a best-ball team competition, which means that you play each shot, and record your personal score for each hole, then the team gets to record the best score out of the foursome for it's team score.

As far as handicapping, the final team score will be the score, minus the team handicap. The team handicap will be figured by averaging all the official USGA handicaps.

For example, on WA South, two out of the four of us have actual handicaps, so those two, 17 and 19, will average out to an 18, which will be our team handicap. If only one person has a handicap, that will be the team handicap. If all four members have a a handicap, just average all four.

So, to report your score, say that your team ends up shooting a 75 raw score, and has an 11 team handicap, your team would net a 64. You would report your raw score, handicap and net score to MOJO.

Good luck and have fun.

Marty (Average Golfer)

One more thing... If you are competing in the individual event too, and are going to use your team score for your individual score, then be sure to play all shots as in tournament golf, even though your team may end up using a better score than yours for that hole.

Edited by - AverageGolfer on 10/07/2005 14:45:28
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