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Screensize: 640 x 480 800 x 600 1024 x 768 1280 x 1024 UserName: Password: Enter Anti SPAM Code: Click here to refresh this page Format Mode: Basic  Help  Prompt  Format: Font Andale Mono Arial Arial Black Book Antiqua Century Gothic Comic Sans MS Courier New Georgia Impact Lucida Console Script MT Bold Stencil Tahoma Times New Roman Trebuchet MS Verdana   Size 1 2 3 4 5 6   Color Black Red Yellow Pink Green Orange Purple Blue Beige Brown Teal Navy Maroon LimeGreen Message Icon:                             Message: * HTML is OFF * Forum Code is ON Smilies [quote][i]Originally posted by TGGS[/i] [br]GRAVES GOLF ACADEMY "Little Moe" SIGNATURE SCHOOL JANUARY INSTRUCTIONAL NEWSLETTER UPDATE ISSUE #73A Hello Again, We just got back from our week at the PGA show in Orlando - had some great meetings with many companies and have a lot of new prospects and ideas for the Graves Golf Academy (GGA). Everything from new video technology to how to improve marketing of our academies was covered. Will definitely enhance our ability to help our students with their games in the future. P.S. - I left Orlando - was 75* with a little fog - landed in Cincinnati - 21*, then OKC - 19*... ouch.... makes you GREATLY appreciate those warmer climates especially this time of year. Looking forward to our Florida schools starting in a couple of weeks. P.S.S. - We have had an incredible amount of new GGA newsletter registrations in the past month. Actually about 10x the normal. Has been GREAT!! But this means, we have a lot who have questions: Where do I begin? What do I need to do next?, etc.. For all those new and anyone who has been with us from the past and you are ready to kick start your golf game - please read below - ESPECIALLY THIS MONTH'S PRACTICE TIP to find out what to do next. Also - Please, please, please don't hesitate to call or email anytime - my direct email: timg@swinglikemoe, Scott's is scottr@swinglikemoe.com and our phone number: 866-377-2316 (inside US) or 405-823-9693 (outside US). That's what we are here for....... ***************** Topics in the Etip: 1. GGA Next Contest - Win a 5 Day GGA Camp and much more. 2. Moe Movie Quick Update - Hollywood writer's strike affecting the GGA 3. Upcoming GGA Events 4. Winter Stretching #4 5. Natural Golf's Moe Norman Golf Academy and the GGA 6. Practice Tip - "Breaking the Big Break" 7. Moeism 8. GGA Schedule - Update through end of JUNE 2008 - East Coast School Dates Released ********************** GGA Contest - Win a GGA Build Your Game Camp, GGA merchandise, and more..: Not going to say a whole lot of detail in this etip - except watch for an email from us in the next few days. We now have the ability (through our new newsletter service - Constant Contact) to see who forwards our etips to others. In other words, if you forward our "formal newsletter" (through the tab at the bottom of our Constant Contact newsletters) - we are notified of the forward. We have NO IDEA who you forwarded the email too, just that you forwarded it. We will be running a contest for the next couple of months. Forward to your golfing buddies, etc.. - tell them about Moe, etc... The winner will receive a GGA Build Your Game Camp - and other's will win GGA gift certificates that can be spent on any merchandise, schools, etc.. P.S. - For all those who think they don't have a chance - don't be too quick.... 1. Our newsletter service will not allow "bulk" sending of email - you must basically send only a few at a time. This is to prevent Spam. 2. You will be entered in the contest the number of forwards you submit. In other words, you forward to 4 golfing buddies, you are entered in contest 4 times. And for every person that signs up for the newsletter - you will get an additional entry. Meaning - if you forward the etip to just one person, you will be entered - he/she signs up for our newsletter - you are now entered twice. The more you forward, the more that sign up, better chance you have to win. Obviously, we are trying to get you to help us spread the word of Moe to everyone - what better way than to have a win/win for everyone involved. Again - more detail will follow from Scott. Good Luck!! *********************** MOE MOVIE UPDATE - Hollywood Writer's strike affecting the GGA.... As hopefully you know by now, Todd and the Graves Golf Academy (GGA) have been asked to be the Technical Swing Advisors for the upcoming Moe Movie (a full screen production of Moe's life produced by Barry Marrow - wrote and produced "Rain Man"). Who would have thought even a few months ago, that a writer's strike in Hollywood would be affecting the GGA - but GUESS WHAT??? Barry has told us, until the writer's strike is over, we are on hold. No actor will sign any contracts until the writer's strike is over.... they have been offered, but none will sign. I can't release names as those being considered/offered roles haven't signed anything, but I will tell you one has a couple Oscars (I believe) and is EXTREMELY well known to the whole world, the other is a new and upcoming actor extremely well known in the music world. Should be interesting teaching them Moe's swing. Will let everyone know when we learn more... keep your finger's crossed this Hollywood writer's strike comes to an end soon. ************************ UPCOMING GGA EVENTS; GGA Schools / Camps. Very short and simple, some of you probably think I am trying to push our schools/camps... I'm done for now..... Scott told me yesterday, if you put all our spring (in Florida) schools and camps together we will teach 120 students before the end of April. We only have 6 spots left. Basically one or two in some schools - that's it... We are already booking for our East Coast swing in Delaware and Connecticut - they are filling fast. We will be in Chicago in July. We will be in Oklahoma City throughout the year. We will be in San Diego in the fall. Please let us know if you have additional questions. Look on our website at www.swinglikemoe.com for more information. Schedule and open spots in schools/camps are also listed at end of this etip. To sign up: http://swinglikemoe.com/shopping/start.php?browse=1&cat=2&customernumber=&=SID Hope to see everyone soon - We GUARANTEE THE ABSOLUTE BEST GOLF LEARNING EXPERIENCE of your life - Guaranteed 100%!!!! ******************* WINTER STRETCHING Hope everyone is enjoying Dave's winter stretching articles. For more information about Dave: http://swinglikemoe.com/index.php?customernumber=762703308683184&pr=Meet_The_Graves_Staff&=SID Folks - this is to help you with your golf game - everyone from beginners to professionals MUST stretch, and there is no doubt, no matter what shape/flexibility you have now, a little better will improve your golf game. Hip Flexor / Shoulder Stretch (by Dave Predzin) Hopefully those of you whom have followed along with my first few stretches are starting to feel a little looser. This stretch picks up where we left off - the Glute Stretch (past etip). After finishing both sides of the Glute stretch you are ready to move into the Hip Flexor and Shoulder Stretch. With your right ankle crossed over your bent left knee and your arms extended straight out from your torso you will lower your left leg and right foot to the ground (towards your left side). The goal is to put your right foot on the ground WHILE you keep your right shoulder and arm in contact with the floor. Begin the same deep breathing sequence we did with our previous stretches -inhale slowly to a count of four, pause and exhale slowly to a count of four - hold the stretch for 10 slow breaths. Some of you will feel this stretch more in your shoulders while others will feel the stretch in their hip flexors. After you complete one side raise your legs slowly, switch legs and repeat the stretch to the other side. You may notice that one side of your body is tighter than the other. I suggest working on that particular side for a few extra breaths to help balance the two sides out. All of the stretches we have covered to date are geared towards helping setup to the ball correctly and swing the club like Moe. Tight hamstrings, lower backs, shoulders and hip flexors impede your ability to get into the proper single plane address position and move the club correctly. Dave ***************** GRAVES GOLF ACADEMY & the Moe Norman Golf Academy Many of you may have heard about the new Natural Golf Moe Norman Golf Academy working with the GGA. Wanted to correct some misinformation and get some facts out to everyone about the relationship, etc.. We met with the new Natural Golf owners and Ken Martin (NG Director of Instruction) this past week in Florida. In fact, Ken and myself played in a couple PGA partner tournaments together (please see Practice Tip for more detail). Anyway - the continued relationship was discussed, wanted to give you some detail. First - The GGA and the Natural Golf Company are working together to help golfers learn the single axis swing. Second - Natural Golf Company is focused on the "big picture" of bringing golfers into the game and introducing the single axis swing in general, not necessarily just Moe's version, but the concept of single axis. Third - The GGA is focused on teaching the Moe Norman's Single Axis Golf Swing to all golfers - beginners, intermediate, advanced. Those frustrated with their game, those needing help with their game, those with injuries needing a change, etc.. Fourth - The GGA is scheduled as the experts to teach Moe's Swing to all Natural Golfers and anyone else interested in the single axis swing. Finally - Natural Golf and the GGA are in support of each other to help all golfer's interested in the single axis swing. Natural Golf focus is getting new golfer's interested in the single axis concept, GGA focus is on teaching everyone Moe's Single Axis Swing. Please let me know if you have addition questions, comments, concerns - timg@swinglikemoe.com or scottr@swinglikemoe.com - would love to hear from everyone!!! PRACTICE TIP: Breaking the Big Break - Lesson's Learned to Help You By: Tim Graves, PGA Member, PGA Advisory Committee for Growing the Game of Golf Hello Everyone, The past few days I have been in Orlando at the annual Professional Golfer's Association (PGA) show. This annual event highlights the golf industries new and most modern "tools of the trade". Prior to the show, the PGA holds a tournament called the PGA Pro/Pro in which PGA professionals from all across the world come into Orlando and team up (2 man teams) in a four-ball / best-ball competition. Over 2 days, close to 150 teams competed. Myself (Tim Graves) and Ken Martin registered to play as one of those teams. On the first day, my partner (Ken) and myself were paired with Gerry James and his partner. Many of you my remember Gerry from the last episodes of the Golf Channel's Big Break - Mesquite. Gerry was the 50 year old contestant whose history includes many long drive championships, membership in the National Long Driver's Association, Mr. California ("muscle man" competition), and wrestling professionally under the name "Agent Orange". Needless to say, this guy is MASSIVE. I believe Gerry finished in the final 4 on the Big Break Mesquite. When Gerry arrived on our first hole (#18 - shotgun start) (at Hunter's Creek Golf Course), he stepped out of the cart with his partner, shook Ken and my hands (we felt like little kids standing next to him) and he proceeded to tee up his first ball on the 430 yard par 4. Gerry heeled (hit the ball off the heel of the driver) the ball down the left side of the fairway, and complained about the hit as the hole was the long drive contest hole for the tournament. The rest of our foursome then hit. As we approached our drives, there were 3 drives down the middle, 270 / 290 yards from the tee, and then there was Gerry's - about 60 yards ahead of ours. I hit a 7 iron into the green, Gerry hit a flip wedge. He drive was well over 310 / 320 yards. In fact, that drive did hold up as the long drive for the entire tournament - Gerry's first drive of the day. Back to our first tee.... After Gerry hit is first drive, I noticed a very common problem among some many golfers who focus on distance rather than technique. Gerry had a very strong lead hand grip. In other words, his left hand (Gerry is right handed) was rotated too far to the right. In Gerry's case, strong enough to be noticeable from a down the line view. As he hit his first drive, I turned to Ken and said "There's a hook waiting to happen" (trust me, out of Gerry's ear shot of course - I might be right, but I'm not stupid, this guy is massive...). Ken looked back at me and said, "No doubt!" The round proceeded, in fact, we birdied our first hole hitting mid irons into the green, Gerry and his partner made par. On to our 2nd hole we went, a tight par 4 into the wind - 410 yards. Ken and I hit down the right middle of the fairway, guess what Gerry did? Yes, snap hook - 50 yards left of the fairway. He was 30 yards ahead of us, but 50 yards left. Both teams ended up making par, needless to say, good thing Gerry had a partner. I'm not going to go hole by hole with you, but during and after the round, I kept thinking to myself, "What a good lesson for all my students, I wish they could watch what I was watching." Picture in you mind, Mr. "Long Drive" and his partner against two single axis "Moe" golfers. As I said to Ken, "The beast vs. the steady Eddies..." For the next 9 holes, Gerry only hit one fairway, in fact, not only was he now hitting hooks, now he was starting to block cut his tee shots because he "was holding on for dear life". In his mind, if he didn't release the club, maybe he could keep it from going left..... so we watched snap hook, block, hook, block... On our 13th hole, we approached the tee. Ken and I were 3 under, Gerry and his partner were 1 over par. The 13th was a 200 yard uphill par 3 into the wind. Gerry's team had the honor's as his partner had birdied the previous hole. Gerry pulled out a 3 iron. Now, I am sorry, but even Tiger on his best day would have had difficulty getting a 3 iron to the green (did I mention it was 45 degrees, now with a 20 mph north wind into our face). Gerry hit his shot - block - short of the green side bunker. HIs partner did the same - block right. Ken and I stepped on to the tee. Ken pulled out a 2 hybrid, swung easy, (finesse type shot), no backspin... front edge of green. I hit the same shot, except mine ended up 5 feet short of the hole. We went on to make birdie. Last story about the round, then I want to talk about a couple of lessons to be learned from my experience. When we stepped on the 14th tee, Gerry was pretty calm (he really is a very nice guy..). We had a wait as the group ahead of us was going for the par 5 in 2. Gerry knew, if he hit it hard, there was no question he'd make a birdie or an eagle. We were talking, Gerry was telling us a couple funny stories about the Big Break, then it was his time to hit. He wound up as much as he had all day, and snapped hooked it into the left lake on the hole. He then absolutely went CRAZY. Screaming, cussing, slamming his driver into the ground. I (and Ken) were pretty sure that was the first "roid rage" we had ever witnessed in person...WOW!! Gerry proceeded to bogey the easy par 5. Finally, when all was over, my team finished 6 under for the day, and after 2 days, a total of 12 under par. Gerry's team finished 1 over for the first day, and didn't place in the tournament. We (Ken and myself) finished 2nd overall in the PGA Pro/Pro Tournament (lost by 1 shot). Now let's talk about what I wish all my student's could have seen (besides the "roid rage"..) and learn from our experience. First, as I stated, after Gerry's first tee shot, there was no question he was in for a long day full of hooks, or blocks (if he didn't release the club face due to the previous hook). Gerry kept saying through the round (after he'd hook or block a drive), "Got to get on my left side", "Got to keep my left shoulder in ", "Got to quite spinning so hard", "Need to control my tempo", "I'm over swinging", etc.. etc.. He was trying to convince himself of why he was hooking the ball so bad. The issue was a FUNDAMENTAL problem - his GRIP. It was too strong and at impact the club face was completely shot down. In fact, it was extremely obvious at the top of his swing, club face shot, no chance for a consistent hit. Gerry, a PGA professional who plays for a living was committing a "golfer sin" - he had forgotten to check the fundamentals when things were going bad. He could try and fix everything he was mentioning, but until he fixes his grip, he will continue with his problems. Second, I will take "Mr. Steady Eddie" everyday over "Mr. Long Knock". Only one time did Ken and I not have a shot in to a green in regulation, Gerry's team lost before they started. You only had to watch the pairing, the "Moe guys" will beat the "Long dogs" 99% of the time. Add a little short game to the "Moe guys", no chance the "Long dogs" will even come close. In other words, golf is a game of CONSISTENCY and ACCURACY, not brute force. Third, use the technology to help your game. On the 200 yard par 3, a hybrid was the correct call. In fact, the 2nd day at a different course, Ken almost aced a 210 yard par 3 with the same shot (finesse hybrid). No way, no how, hitting a long iron would have allowed us those shots, no way!! Hybrids and other new technology like big headed drivers, forgiving irons, etc.. can and will make the game easier, USE THEM!! After the grip, that would have been my second recommendation to Gerry, make it easier on yourself. Finally, DO NOT play your opponents game. NEVER, EVER, EVER!!! Let me tell you about my mistake and please learn from it. On the first day on our 5th hole, Gerry had honors and hit a hard block, about 350 yards down the right side of a par 5 - he got lucky as the hole doglegged right. I set up over my drive, and not wanting to be out driven, thought to myself, hit it hard. I proceeded to block it right behind a tree. Ken hit a good drive, but pulled his 3 wood 2nd shot left. Believe it or not, we ended up bogeying a par 5 in a 4-ball competition, not good!! And when all was said and done, this was our only bogey of the tournament. We lost by 1 shot - I got out of "my game" and it cost our first place.... lesson learned....hopefully. Cost us a few dollars, but lesson was learned. Now, what can you do? Learn from Gerry. From this day forward, quit guessing what is wrong with your game. Study the fundamentals of Moe Norman's single axis swing. It is not hard. We have made it VERY EASY for you in our Total Game Overview - What the Moe Norman Swing is all About instructional DVD and if you want advanced swing work in our 7 Princples of Golf Improvement. This is why EVERY person who signs up for a GGA school or camp receives a GGA Total Game Overview included with the school as soon as they sign up. So they can study and review before they attend. It is a MUST!! GGA Total Game Overview Instructional DVD 10 minute Freeview: http://swinglikemoe.com/index.php?customernumber=115982738403509&pr=TGOV_Videos GGA 7 Principles of Golf Improvement Freeview: http://swinglikemoe.com/index.php?customernumber=115982738403509&pr=7_Principles_Videos FYI - couple of facts, "take it or leave it"... We have sold 1,000s of our Total Game Overview DVDs and have had less than 20 returned in 6 years. And there is a 100% guarantee... you figure it out.... Fact #2 - Our's (Graves Golf Academy's) is the ONLY instructional products Natural Golf is now selling.... you figure it out... Don't just go out and do a bunch of drills.. you will probably be wasting your time needlessly as you will be drilling on things that are fine in your swing, and possibly drilling incorrectly on things that are wrong with your swing. Find out what is FUNDAMENTALLY wrong in your swing, determine how to fix it, then do the CORRECT drills and actions to fix the fundamental issue. Total Game Overview is EVERYONE'S start - GGA Trouble's and Solution's is a continuation of the drills/fixes. You can see a freeview video at: http://swinglikemoe.com/index.php?customernumber=115982738403509&pr=Troubles_Solutions After you figure that out, call us, email us, send us a "email video". We'll help you fix your swing and take your game to levels you have only dreamed. If you doubt me, just go to my forum at www.moenormanforum.com - talk to the 1,000s of GGA Moe Norman Golfers who are already reaching levels they only dreamed of a while back. Even better - You might eventually go out and "Break the Big Break". Good Luck, Hope this gives you a little "food for thought" when you are working on your game/swing. To see the GGA Path to Great Golf - Please go to: http://swinglikemoe.com/index.php?customernumber=590517511375117&pr=The_Path_To_Great_Golf&=SID This is our path to aid you in playing your BEST GOLF EVER!!!! As always - please, please PRACTICE WITH A PURPOSE. Good Luck, Please let us know if we can do anything else for you. ******************** "Moeisms" Moe Norman: "I want both feet on the ground when I hit the ball. Most guys are way up on their right foot. I want my swing to balance me." Please feel free to comment on this or email any of your favorite "Moeism's" to us if you'd like to share with others.... ****************** UPCOMING GGA EVENTS (Through June - East Coast School Dates Released): *** We have had a cancellation in the couples school - Was sold out, not have opening for one couple - please see below if interested. *** Visit our website at http://www.swinglikemoe.com/ for more information on each school, school agendas, and for most recent updated schedule. Updated every few days. 2008 Feb. 1-3, 2008 - 3 day school - Orlando, FL (Sold Out) Feb. 4-8, 2008 - Build Your Game Camp - Orlando, FL (2 spots open) Feb. 23-24, 2008 - 2 day Alumni school - Orlando, FL (SOLD OUT) Feb. 25-29, 2008 - Build Your game Camp - Orlando, FL (2 spots open) Mar. 9-13, 2008 - Alumni Build Your Game Camp - Orlando, FL (SOLD OUT) Mar. 14-16, 2008 - 3 day school - Orlando, FL (3 spots open) Mar. 27-29, 2008 - 3 day COUPLES School - Orlando, FL (2 Spots Open - just opened with cancellation) Apr. 11-13, 2008 - 3 day school - Orlando, FL (1 spot open) Apr. 14-18, 2008 - Build Your Game Camp - Orlando, FL (2 spots open) Apr. 25-27, 2008 - 3 day school - Oklahoma City, OK GGA Academy (2 spots open) May 5-9, 2008 - Build Your Game Camp - Oklahoma City, OK at GGA Academy (SOLD OUT) May 16-18, 2008 - 3 day School - Dover, DE, Jonathon's Landing (Open) May 20-22, 2008 - 3 day School, East Haddam, CT, FoxHopyard GC (Open) May 23-24, 2008 - 2 day Alumni School, East Haddam, CT, FoxHopyard GC (Open) June 20-22, 2008 - 3 day school - Oklahoma City, OK - GGA Academy (Open) June 23-27, 2008 - 5 day Build Your Game Camp, OKC, OK - GGA Academy (Open) Others TBA Please visit our website at www.swinglikemoe.com for updated events and more information Registration can be do online at: http://swinglikemoe.com/shopping/start.php?browse=1&cat=2&customernumber=119282625605912&=SID If you would like more information about the schools agenda, etc.. or would like more information about a particular area, please feel free to call or email anytime: TimKGraves@aol.com or 866-377-2316 within US, 405-823-9693 (outside US). We have brochures we can send and/or email. **************** SPECIALS: We greatly appreciate all those who have contacted us for orders in the past. All clubs ordered through the GGA are built at the manufacturer to the individual's single axis swing specifications and sent direct from the factory to you. You can see more about your specific recommended single axis specifications at: http://swinglikemoe.com/index.php?customernumber=76730442994646&pr=Free_Club_Fitting&=SID *** Call for prices on any clubs: Adams, Ping, Taylormade, Callaway, Titleist/Cobra, Cleveland, YES Putters, and others.. we are able to beat (or at worst match) all prices and we can offer (custom build to your single axis specs) all clubs built by these manufacturers. * No shipping charges, no taxes (outside of Oklahoma) * Adams A3 OS Hybrid / Combo Set Irons(8) - $599 Steel, $699 Graphite Adams "combo" set always rated one of best in industry. http://www.adamsgolf.com/ir_idea_a3OS.htm * ANNOUNCING NEW - Callaway HYPER X Driver - $299 Price: $299 (Graphite) Callaway Big Bertha 460 Driver Price: $299 (Graphite) http://www.callawaygolf.com/en.CLUBS.Drivers.BigBertha460Driver.html * Callaway X-20 irons - Price: $899 set of 8 graphite, $699 set of 8 steel shaft Individually - $120 per club graphite, $100 steel www.callawaygolf.com * Cobra DWS hybrids - $149 graphite http://cobragolf.com/utility_metals/details.asp?id=5 * NEW - Callaway Big Bertha Fairway woods - $199 each (graphite) http://www.callawaygolf.com/en.CLUBS.FairwayWoods.BigBerthaFairwayWoods.html * Callaway X Hybrid - $159 graphite, $139 steel http://www.callawaygolf.com/en.CLUBS.Hybrids.XHybrid.html Most Forged Wedges (Titleist Vokey, Callaway Forged +, Cleveland... ) - Between $100 and $110 each http://www.callawaygolf.com/en.CLUBS.Wedges.XTourWedges.html http://www.titleist.com/golfclubs/wedges/vokeyspinmilled.asp ********************** GGA INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIAL This is where EVERYONE should start to learn Moe's Single Axis Swing - a MUST HAVE!!!! GGA Total Game Overview Instructional DVD 10 minute Freeview: http://swinglikemoe.com/index.php?customernumber=115982738403509&pr=TGOV_Videos See our latest and newest release - TROUBLES AND SOLUTIONS - great reviews (visit our chatroom to read them) See more at: http://swinglikemoe.com/index.php?customernumber=284544460813131&pr=Troubles_Solutions ** GGA "FEELING OF GREATNESS" GRIP TRAINING CLUB: $129.95 http://swinglikemoe.com/index.php?customernumber=248948923246794&pr=Training_Grip_And_Club GGA / TGGS INSTRUCTIONAL TAPES: Please see:http://swinglikemoe.com/shopping/pgm-more_information.php?id=7&=SID "Little Moe's" Swing for Life $24.95 GGA Short Game: $19.95 Course Management/ "How to Practice": $19.95 Get all three on VHS: $64.95 All three on DVD: $64.95 Volume #1 - #6 - 7 Principles of Golf Improvement - $64.95 each GGA 7 Principles of Golf Improvement Freeview: http://swinglikemoe.com/index.php?customernumber=115982738403509&pr=7_Principles_Videos Entire Series: $299 For more information about our 7 principles: http://swinglikemoe.com/index.php?customernumber=831366983148715&pr=Seven_Principles&=SID Leverage bag: $35.95 ********************************************* * A small shipping charge will be added to all orders. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ANY OF THE ABOVE SPECIALS, PLEASE CALL US AT 866-377-2316 within US or 405-823-9693 outside US, OR EMAIL TIM at TIMKGRAVES@AOL.COM or TIMG@SWINGLIKEMOE.COM We wish everyone continued success with their golf games, and hope to see everyone very soon. Tim Graves, PGA, Graves Golf Academy Owner/Instructor Todd Graves, Graves Golf Academy Owner/Instructor Scott Renfrow, GGA Director of Customer Relations Brent Evans, GGA Instructor Dave Predzin, PGA(a), GGA Instructor Mick Benson, GGA Instructor Ben Stanborough, PGA (European), GGA Instructor Shannon Dowdy, LPGA, GGA Instructor Clayton Zwicker, GGA Apprentice Graves Golf Academy www.swinglikemoe.com - GGA Website 866-377-2316 405-823-9693 (Outside US) timg@swinglikemoe.com timkgraves@aol.com www.moenormanforum.com - GGA Chat Forum [/quote]   Check here to include your profile signature.